yes I still need to get the shadows fixed and this could be really cool.. I will continue looking around but it is very playable in its current state.. any feedback welcomed.. ;)
Well done Nephilim, I have plans to purchase ARMA 3 and mainly due to your 3D Fix. I've enjoyed many hours of ARMA II and now you given me a reason to move to III. Thanks a ton!!!!! Stryker66.
Didn't work for me. Maybe it is because I could not find Arma3Launcher in the profiler drop down list per your instructions. Or maybe it is because I am running Windows 10 with DX12 (with DX9 and DX11 runtimes). Followed the instructions, although I assumed by "associate" Arma3 with The Witcher 3, you meant the normal procedure to switch profiles as described in the Helixmod Guide. Had to reinstall the latest driver afterward but that only took a few minutes. I am willing to try anything, just about, to get even Fake3D. Great work!
W.I.P. doesn't mean anything to you? WorkInProgress? He never said it was complete.
It's not all that much different in terms of setup from other fixes. Change profile with NVidia Inspector, drop in files, change settings to known good settings.
Works as a good first step to play in 3D, or not, your choice.
Please don't hesitate to put in some time to make this better.
To those that have trouble with 3D Enabling, I had similar issues and after ALT + TAB down after I came back in the game the 3D was still not enabled I just did the Hot key to enable 3D and it kicked in.. so sometimes after aLT + TAB Back ingame it don't work try enabling 3D with your Hotkey press..
Yes Arma 3 has proven to be a bit weird at times but it does look really good with 3D Enabled.. I sort of am finished with this as I do not know what else to do to get 3D to kick in more reliable other then what has been tested to work.. I am unsure why 3D does not just kick in bit I have tried multiple Profiles and The Witcher 3 Profile is the ONLY 1 that works..
with 498hrs in Arma 3 in 2D I bet fire up the Large Hadron Collider so I can start gaming in 3D Vision.... looking forward to causing a global thurmonuclear meltdown as my GPU & CPU reach temperatures hotter than the core of the sun
Unlikely to be a problem with 3Dmigoto, but maybe. We haven't seen this in other games.
If it happens fairly quickly, maybe try playing with 3D turned on, but no 3Dmigoto/fix installed. That would narrow it down to 3D driver versus 3Dmigoto.
My comments on August 9 were based on the instructions as printed. Bo3b's comments lead me to believe that I should have had 3Dmigoto/fix loaded. lately I have seen references to reshademe. And then there is SweetFX and Real_light, both of these are probably used to brighten up 3D Vision, among other things. What is the best course of action for someone new at this?
Best bet is to do things incrementally. Make sure that at each step of adding things that it works correctly and didn't introduce any bugs/crashes or badness. Play the game for at least an hour after each change to be sure it's working.
Each piece of added modding makes it more fragile and prone to break. There is no guarantee that it will all work together, as all of us are modifying the game in different ways that might conflict.
Start with game itself, make sure that it is fully up to date and working smoothly in 2D. Then enable 3D with no fix installed, which gives white bushes, but you'll want to be sure this doesn't crash or break in other ways. Drivers can be very problematic, that's why this matters.
After those seem solid, add in the WIP fix here. This is 3Dmigoto and will fix the 3D white bushes, at the expense of shadows. Be sure it's playing like you like.
You can then add reshade or others like it, although I think those things are wildly overrated. You can typically brighten images with control panel settings. To do the reshade stuff you need to do proxy loading with 3Dmigoto, which allows both to run at the same time. You'll need to look that up with google. It's not hard, but it is error prone.
Lastly, if you are running Win10, your life will be harder. Some of the tricks that work on Win7 don't work, and it's not a stable platform because Microsoft can and does change things whenever they like. Win7 being obsolete is far more stable, so once you have it working you can expect it to continue to work. I always recommend having a dual boot Win10+7 if you have to have 10, because I get tired of having to fix stuff they break. The same is true of game updates. Only accept them if you need them.
BTW, don't use DX12, it's a joke. Also none of our stuff works with DX12, including 3D Vision.
If you actually care more about playing instead of the latest shiny, your best bet is to use Win7. The latest shiny is always marketing based, not reality based. Think about it, Arma 3 was developed with Win7 in mind since its inception. What is the likely most stable, debugged spot for the game itself?
You might be able to get fake-3D/CM to work here, I don't think anyone has tried. Look at the geforce forums for 3D Vision, there is a sticky there, that talks about how to make CM work on any game by tweaking profiles.
Many thanks. I guess I am screwed. I am now running win 10 anniversary with DX 12. As a matter of fact, when I activate 3D Vision, Arma 3 crashes...every time. This has always happened on my system, from 8, 8.1, 10 Upgrade, and 10 Anniversary. Crashes even in Windows compatibility mode (Win 7). 3D Vision works fine in all other games. Arma 3 runs fine otherwise. Thought the various fixes (I tried the Fake3D also) would solve the crashing problem (UNABLE_TO_INIT_DXGI). I use an i5 with GTX760, 16MB of DDR, on an SSD. I am screwed! Thank you for your help!!
Just to clarify a little there. There is no DX12 support in Arma 3. It doesn't matter what the OS says, the game requests DX11. Right now there are something less than 5 games that use DX12. It's a gimmick.
Since you crash on 3D always, the best thing to try is to cleanly reinstall the video driver using the DDU tool. That commonly fixes problems like this.
I will check Arma 3 with Win 10. I had to do a similar fix for Final Fantasy and got it working perhaps a similar fix is needed.. I have a new updated that fixes the stars in Arma3 and boy they look great!! Hey Is that the Big Dipper..?? ;)
Well I just checked and I will upload this new version 1.5 to the server.. Hopefully it works both Win 7 and Win 10.. I did just check and it worked in Win 10.. I also fixed a few things like the stars and Nameplates with a left bracket hotkey for convergence levels..
It's fun to see your fast improvement at fixing broken effects. Good stuff.
For Win10, there should be no fundamental reason why a fix is different between 7 and 10. There are occasional glitches, but as a general rule the same fix and same dlls will work on both.
yes I have learned a lot in the past 2 weeks since I first did Arma3.. The nameplates in Arma 3 look great now and with the hotkey you can cycle to suit your needs.. The star fix was also needed I think it looks really good now.. I don't think Win 10 is different with Arma 3 I have both copies and this fix works on Both OS.. I think if there is a CTD maybe it is the Steam Overlay altho I don't suffer that problem. or it can be an overlay like MSI AFterburner could cause issues..
Well there was a small update for this game. I got it last night and it seemed to have broken the night vision and IR Images.. I looked at it quickly but when I found the offending shader it took the Rifles, Compass textures away.. I am unsure what to do with this maybe during the weekend I can look into it further..
Well I am back onto a server with some Friends and the 3D kicks off when in the multiplayer session.. I tried hosting my own server and the 3D worked fine.. I was wondering is there anything Host side that needs to be changed or that can make the 3D not work??
ther setting for the host that makes 3D not kick in even tho I did not hve it enabled was "Battleye" even tho I had it off the host having it on was keeping the 3D from Working..
Small update to Fix just minor with 7zip added and Zero Separation removed from the toggle now only 4 presets. this way there is always separation in things that can be toggled..
Rats! Can't even run the game when 3D Vision is activated in either Win 8 or Win 10 unless in Window mode or in compat mode for Win 7. No 3D effect. Not even bad effects. No fake 3D either. Can't use your geometry-based fix because there is nothing to fix. The game never gets past Ctrl-T. Tried all of the usual suspects. Puzzling. Contacted BI Studio and supplied them with all my info. Their reply was that they didn't support 3D Vision. Now DX12, but same with DX11. Did the runtime thing also. No help.Tried everything that I and others could think of. Must be something arcane.
Are you running in multiplayer?? IF so you can not use this fix and run Battleeye.. You can and this fix still works I use it all the time just does not work on Officiazl servers running Battleeye..
I am not running multiplayer. Recently put the game on SSD. Upgraded to make my rig VR-ready with a GTX 1060 with 6 GB. Still no luck. With the most recent Nvidia driver, instead of hanging the system with 3D vision activated, it just kicks back out to the launcher though still listed in task manager. If I hit ctrl-T (turns off 3D vision in-game)soon enough now, 3D vision turns off and I can run the game in 2D. No battleey. I just noticed the "3Dmigoto DX11 Fix by The_Nephilim & 4everAwake" collaboration. Looks cool. Too bad my system won't allow running Arma 3 without problems.
Thanks alot for all your efforts, this game is NOW a must buy :)
ReplyDeleteyes I still need to get the shadows fixed and this could be really cool.. I will continue looking around but it is very playable in its current state..
ReplyDeleteany feedback welcomed.. ;)
Nephilim
Well done Nephilim, I have plans to purchase ARMA 3 and mainly due to your 3D Fix. I've enjoyed many hours of ARMA II and now you given me a reason to move to III. Thanks a ton!!!!! Stryker66.
ReplyDeleteYour Welcome.
ReplyDeleteDidn't work for me. Maybe it is because I could not find Arma3Launcher in the profiler drop down list per your instructions. Or maybe it is because I am running Windows 10 with DX12 (with DX9 and DX11 runtimes). Followed the instructions, although I assumed by "associate" Arma3 with The Witcher 3, you meant the normal procedure to switch profiles as described in the Helixmod Guide. Had to reinstall the latest driver afterward but that only took a few minutes. I am willing to try anything, just about, to get even Fake3D. Great work!
ReplyDeleteWow, this is getting really complicated. In the past you simply threw the downloaded 3D-Vision fix into the install directory and it worked.
ReplyDeleteW.I.P. doesn't mean anything to you? WorkInProgress? He never said it was complete.
DeleteIt's not all that much different in terms of setup from other fixes. Change profile with NVidia Inspector, drop in files, change settings to known good settings.
Works as a good first step to play in 3D, or not, your choice.
Please don't hesitate to put in some time to make this better.
To those that have trouble with 3D Enabling, I had similar issues and after ALT + TAB down after I came back in the game the 3D was still not enabled I just did the Hot key to enable 3D and it kicked in.. so sometimes after aLT + TAB Back ingame it don't work try enabling 3D with your Hotkey press..
ReplyDeleteYes Arma 3 has proven to be a bit weird at times but it does look really good with 3D Enabled.. I sort of am finished with this as I do not know what else to do to get 3D to kick in more reliable other then what has been tested to work.. I am unsure why 3D does not just kick in bit I have tried multiple Profiles and The Witcher 3 Profile is the ONLY 1 that works..
with 498hrs in Arma 3 in 2D I bet fire up the Large Hadron Collider so I can start gaming in 3D Vision.... looking forward to causing a global thurmonuclear meltdown as my GPU & CPU reach temperatures hotter than the core of the sun
ReplyDeletegetting lots of crashes - latest "Status Heap Corruption"
ReplyDeleteUnlikely to be a problem with 3Dmigoto, but maybe. We haven't seen this in other games.
DeleteIf it happens fairly quickly, maybe try playing with 3D turned on, but no 3Dmigoto/fix installed. That would narrow it down to 3D driver versus 3Dmigoto.
My comments on August 9 were based on the instructions as printed. Bo3b's comments lead me to believe that I should have had 3Dmigoto/fix loaded. lately I have seen references to reshademe. And then there is SweetFX and Real_light, both of these are probably used to brighten up 3D Vision, among other things. What is the best course of action for someone new at this?
ReplyDeleteBest bet is to do things incrementally. Make sure that at each step of adding things that it works correctly and didn't introduce any bugs/crashes or badness. Play the game for at least an hour after each change to be sure it's working.
DeleteEach piece of added modding makes it more fragile and prone to break. There is no guarantee that it will all work together, as all of us are modifying the game in different ways that might conflict.
Start with game itself, make sure that it is fully up to date and working smoothly in 2D. Then enable 3D with no fix installed, which gives white bushes, but you'll want to be sure this doesn't crash or break in other ways. Drivers can be very problematic, that's why this matters.
After those seem solid, add in the WIP fix here. This is 3Dmigoto and will fix the 3D white bushes, at the expense of shadows. Be sure it's playing like you like.
You can then add reshade or others like it, although I think those things are wildly overrated. You can typically brighten images with control panel settings. To do the reshade stuff you need to do proxy loading with 3Dmigoto, which allows both to run at the same time. You'll need to look that up with google. It's not hard, but it is error prone.
Lastly, if you are running Win10, your life will be harder. Some of the tricks that work on Win7 don't work, and it's not a stable platform because Microsoft can and does change things whenever they like. Win7 being obsolete is far more stable, so once you have it working you can expect it to continue to work. I always recommend having a dual boot Win10+7 if you have to have 10, because I get tired of having to fix stuff they break. The same is true of game updates. Only accept them if you need them.
BTW, don't use DX12, it's a joke. Also none of our stuff works with DX12, including 3D Vision.
DeleteIf you actually care more about playing instead of the latest shiny, your best bet is to use Win7. The latest shiny is always marketing based, not reality based. Think about it, Arma 3 was developed with Win7 in mind since its inception. What is the likely most stable, debugged spot for the game itself?
You might be able to get fake-3D/CM to work here, I don't think anyone has tried. Look at the geforce forums for 3D Vision, there is a sticky there, that talks about how to make CM work on any game by tweaking profiles.
Many thanks. I guess I am screwed. I am now running win 10 anniversary with DX 12. As a matter of fact, when I activate 3D Vision, Arma 3 crashes...every time. This has always happened on my system, from 8, 8.1, 10 Upgrade, and 10 Anniversary. Crashes even in Windows compatibility mode (Win 7). 3D Vision works fine in all other games. Arma 3 runs fine otherwise. Thought the various fixes (I tried the Fake3D also) would solve the crashing problem (UNABLE_TO_INIT_DXGI). I use an i5 with GTX760, 16MB of DDR, on an SSD. I am screwed! Thank you for your help!!
ReplyDeleteJust to clarify a little there. There is no DX12 support in Arma 3. It doesn't matter what the OS says, the game requests DX11. Right now there are something less than 5 games that use DX12. It's a gimmick.
DeleteSince you crash on 3D always, the best thing to try is to cleanly reinstall the video driver using the DDU tool. That commonly fixes problems like this.
I will check Arma 3 with Win 10. I had to do a similar fix for Final Fantasy and got it working perhaps a similar fix is needed.. I have a new updated that fixes the stars in Arma3 and boy they look great!! Hey Is that the Big Dipper..?? ;)
ReplyDeleteWell I just checked and I will upload this new version 1.5 to the server.. Hopefully it works both Win 7 and Win 10.. I did just check and it worked in Win 10.. I also fixed a few things like the stars and Nameplates with a left bracket hotkey for convergence levels..
ReplyDeleteIt's fun to see your fast improvement at fixing broken effects. Good stuff.
DeleteFor Win10, there should be no fundamental reason why a fix is different between 7 and 10. There are occasional glitches, but as a general rule the same fix and same dlls will work on both.
yes I have learned a lot in the past 2 weeks since I first did Arma3.. The nameplates in Arma 3 look great now and with the hotkey you can cycle to suit your needs..
ReplyDeleteThe star fix was also needed I think it looks really good now.. I don't think Win 10 is different with Arma 3 I have both copies and this fix works on Both OS..
I think if there is a CTD maybe it is the Steam Overlay altho I don't suffer that problem. or it can be an overlay like MSI AFterburner could cause issues..
Well there was a small update for this game. I got it last night and it seemed to have broken the night vision and IR Images.. I looked at it quickly but when I found the offending shader it took the Rifles, Compass textures away..
ReplyDeleteI am unsure what to do with this maybe during the weekend I can look into it further..
Well it seems the fix os still working and the night vision and IR is back to working.. I played last night with no issues with the 3D..
ReplyDeleteWell I am back onto a server with some Friends and the 3D kicks off when in the multiplayer session.. I tried hosting my own server and the 3D worked fine.. I was wondering is there anything Host side that needs to be changed or that can make the 3D not work??
ReplyDeletether setting for the host that makes 3D not kick in even tho I did not hve it enabled was "Battleye" even tho I had it off the host having it on was keeping the 3D from Working..
ReplyDeleteSmall update to Fix just minor with 7zip added and Zero Separation removed from the toggle now only 4 presets. this way there is always separation in things that can be toggled..
ReplyDeleteThank you for this great work o7
ReplyDeleteYor Welcome glad someone else got use out of it. Arma is a very cool game.. ;)
ReplyDeleteRats! Can't even run the game when 3D Vision is activated in either Win 8 or Win 10 unless in Window mode or in compat mode for Win 7. No 3D effect. Not even bad effects. No fake 3D either. Can't use your geometry-based fix because there is nothing to fix. The game never gets past Ctrl-T. Tried all of the usual suspects. Puzzling. Contacted BI Studio and supplied them with all my info. Their reply was that they didn't support 3D Vision. Now DX12, but same with DX11. Did the runtime thing also. No help.Tried everything that I and others could think of. Must be something arcane.
ReplyDeleteAre you running in multiplayer?? IF so you can not use this fix and run Battleeye.. You can and this fix still works I use it all the time just does not work on Officiazl servers running Battleeye..
ReplyDeleteI am not running multiplayer. Recently put the game on SSD. Upgraded to make my rig VR-ready with a GTX 1060 with 6 GB. Still no luck. With the most recent Nvidia driver, instead of hanging the system with 3D vision activated, it just kicks back out to the launcher though still listed in task manager. If I hit ctrl-T (turns off 3D vision in-game)soon enough now, 3D vision turns off and I can run the game in 2D. No battleey. I just noticed the "3Dmigoto DX11 Fix by The_Nephilim & 4everAwake" collaboration. Looks cool. Too bad my system won't allow running Arma 3 without problems.
ReplyDeleteIf I deactivate 3D vision, will the Arma 3 fix or the 3Dmitogo DX11 Fix work?
ReplyDelete